Col, escape form there mate! That is of course unless there are some pretty nurses! Too nice to be in Hospital! and tomorrow is big Butterfly count day
Quote: The Reaper wrote in post #20.......... Regards from my hospital bed [free in the morning] Col.
hey Col !! - I hope its nothing too serious - you have 30°C in Southend - so not the best time to spend in a hospital - get well soon ! and tell us what it is all about ....
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Quote: cruisinradio wrote in post #21Col, escape form there mate! That is of course unless there are some pretty nurses! Too nice to be in Hospital! and tomorrow is big Butterfly count day
As for communication in a radio station: it seems a very hard point for radio station to communicate in a good way with the employees. I see this happening at almost every radio station. DJ's are not informed by the management about new plans / ideas, and I think that's a very bad way to work together as a team, and also a bad sign to listeners when they notice it. Asking for money as an internet-station doesn't seem a bad idea to me, it would be different when it was a commercial radio station broadcasting on the airwaves. When listeners like to pay to keep Big L on the air let hem do, donations to non-profit companies are done all over the world.
Really don't want to get drawn into the other discussions here, but will comment in general on funding, as it seems curious that some think a station should not accept or ask for donations to help stay on air.
Yes, there are many stations, run as a hobby, that provide pleasure and a valued service to their listeners, whose owners wouldn't dream of asking listeners to chip in and very good on them, it's wonderful that they are able to do so. There are also many stations, run in the same way, who do ask for donations to help out, especially as they've grown and costs have increased. There are also stations looking at a subscription model for funding.
There are other, often larger stations, such as Caroline who do accept donations and can only continue thanks to the goodwill and generosity of their listeners, who value the product and are able to contribute to the continuance of that product. Big L is a similar station in many ways, although our output is quite different. These stations are not simple one-man operations, serving a handful of listeners. They have a team of dedicated staff, who provide many hours on and off-air support for no financial gain. They, thankfully have many dedicated listeners and supporters, determined to see the station survive. They also have a complex infrastructure to support.
Let's face facts, server space, bandwidth and the other infrastructure needed to keep on air costs money, a significant ammount of money for an operation the size of Big L, Caroline and other similar stations. The owner of such a station cannot be expected to provide all the funding for such a station indefinitely. In the case of Big L and no doubt Caroline, listeners have asked if they can make donations in the past and until a better model can be found to fund the station, it seems perfectly reasonable to accept donations from those who are able to and are kind enough to offer to help with the running costs.
After all, nobody is forcing anyone to contribute. Listen and enjoy for free, or don't listen if you prefer something else. Contribute if you wish, or don't contribute. In each case, it's entirely your call.
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Nicely put Ian and no argument from me but would it not be more beneficial to put that sound reasoning and excellent explanation onto both, BigL website and FOBL and also give a small shout on air, something like---"Should you wish to donate to BigL's operating costs then go to our website for further info". Then it's clear that the station is not begging or demanding cash.Anyway, you've explained it so I'll shut my big gob now----good luck. Secondly----they yanked me into the hospital to needle my right eye to remove some excess pressure---no big deal---just that all my ops are local anesthetic because of my heart, so I really don't like those bloody great needles drilling into my eyes but that's life.They hang onto me overnight just in case of heart problems and also 'cos I get on with all those lovely nurses----they love lively patients and treat me so well. Anyway I'm free now until the next op 24 August, thanks for all the kind words.Jan did that---- Regards. Col.
Quote: The Reaper wrote in post #29....... Secondly----they yanked me into the hospital to needle my right eye to remove some excess pressure---no big deal---just that all my ops are local anesthetic because of my heart, so I really don't like those bloody great needles drilling into my eyes but that's life.......... Col.
Thats what (injections) I get every 6 weeks - if its well done with a fine needle - then its less than an injection at the dentist. - This is why I am so happy with my Salzburg clinic. - No more irritations - nothing afterwards. Only all these op-preparations with all these drops is odd but not painful at all. Against my high eye-pressure I have to take 1 drop of "Timolol 0,5%" into every eye every day - and my pressure went down from 27 to 15 within 1 monthe what is quite okay. Maybe these drops would be good also for you.
Sorry Cookie- I can't let that post go without replying, Cruisin often has more listeners than BigL! Just look at shoutcast. And it makes no attempt to gain any. RNI costs more to run than BigL, and has many more listeners- and they ask for no money. Whether BigL asks for money or not, is of no interest to me- but, I won't have things said about my station by saying things that try to put it down. I have been a radio and voiceover pro (and by that I mean make money) since the 70's when I was making ad's for Capital and LBC etc. Putting down something I am involved in by dismissing it as "hobby" just isn't acceptable.
Hopefully, that is all I shall have to say on this matter.
Arfa - I am 100% convinced that Cookie didn't want to put down anyone's hobby or passion - but Cookie is doing shows for BigL and so its quite natural that he tries to explain BigL's ideas or intentions - for sure his entry is not meant in any way personal or "against" anyone - and believe me Cookie has helped and supported people technically who do and think exactly the same way like you.
Alec---I only have a blurred sight in the top r/h corner of my right eye----I use 4 different drugs twice a day in both eyes [timolol being one] I already have lens implants in both eyes. have seen the best consultants in UK, Malta and Qatar and know that what sight I have left is all I will get so I now just shut up and accept----I;m growing old but disgracefully old. But I just love the sympathy from the women. I also like cruisinradio, KBC, BigL and cornflakes-----that should put me back on thread. Regards. Col.
Well, as I said- I just couldn't let that go- I had to correct the inference that had been made, after all nobody is going to do it for me- are they! I Just had to make sure that people weren't misled that only those two stations need money to run, and that others were "less" in any shape or form.
Everyone has their own thing, and at times rivalry, comradery and support for your own station can make you blinkered towards other stations out there. Good luck to them all- I support anyone and everyone who tries- that is better than doing nothing. The truth is, none of us are pulling in any audience worth its salt- and the weirdest and strangest stations get many more listeners. just take a look at the opening page of shoutcast http://www.shoutcast.com/
What the hell is going on?
I must admit, I am quite spoilt- I go back far enough to remember when radio was King- and the letters just piled through the door (about 150 a week for a station I was on in the 70's and 80's), and the phone never stopped ringing (you didn't even have time to put the handset down, you just clicked the rest contacts on top of the phone).
Silly this one-upmanship, when after all nobody is winning. AB
l know what you mean mate, we are getting hits this week alone around 50 to 87 per day since we got the jukebox running now. You yourself have got a great station so don`t think of closing it down mate Martin
Quote: cruisinradio wrote in post #35.............. What the hell is going on?
I must admit, I am quite spoilt- I go back far enough to remember when radio was King- and the letters just piled through the door (about 150 a week for a station I was on in the 70's and 80's), and the phone never stopped ringing (you didn't even have time to put the handset down, you just clicked the rest contacts on top of the phone).
Silly this one-upmanship, when after all nobody is winning. AB
Well - do you remember that song "video killed the radio star" ? - Well now it should be something like "internet kills the radio-station" - there are just too many - In the 70/80ies and even beginning 90ies you were happy if you could find a station on the radio dial that played your music - no matter if it faded or crackled - radio was still an adventure - I really miss these times. Everything gets so much undervalued in our 'plastic throw-away world' - we don't appreciate things anymore as everything has become so much a matter of course. Thats why we need people like all you radio-makers who still put their blood and soul and their passion into their stations and bring real life to the radio-world even if its i-net only and a ' one-upmanship ' (I hope I understood the meaning of that term correctly) - a big thank-you to all of you !!!
Ps.: Arfa and Martin, - I don't know how that works - but put a Facebook-Like-button on your website - that helps to spread the news (like 'flower-power-radio' did)
I think they all do a good job in giving people a choice and Its up to us to choose the station we like. Its a case of listen for a while to each station and if you like it stick with it, if not move on to another.
Quote: Cookie wrote in post #27Echo the good wishes for Col. Hope you are ok.
Really don't want to get drawn into the other discussions here, but will comment in general on funding, as it seems curious that some think a station should not accept or ask for donations to help stay on air.
Yes, there are many stations, run as a hobby, that provide pleasure and a valued service to their listeners, whose owners wouldn't dream of asking listeners to chip in and very good on them, it's wonderful that they are able to do so. There are also many stations, run in the same way, who do ask for donations to help out, especially as they've grown and costs have increased. There are also stations looking at a subscription model for funding.
There are other, often larger stations, such as Caroline who do accept donations and can only continue thanks to the goodwill and generosity of their listeners, who value the product and are able to contribute to the continuance of that product. Big L is a similar station in many ways, although our output is quite different. These stations are not simple one-man operations, serving a handful of listeners. They have a team of dedicated staff, who provide many hours on and off-air support for no financial gain. They, thankfully have many dedicated listeners and supporters, determined to see the station survive. They also have a complex infrastructure to support.
Let's face facts, server space, bandwidth and the other infrastructure needed to keep on air costs money, a significant ammount of money for an operation the size of Big L, Caroline and other similar stations. The owner of such a station cannot be expected to provide all the funding for such a station indefinitely. In the case of Big L and no doubt Caroline, listeners have asked if they can make donations in the past and until a better model can be found to fund the station, it seems perfectly reasonable to accept donations from those who are able to and are kind enough to offer to help with the running costs.
After all, nobody is forcing anyone to contribute. Listen and enjoy for free, or don't listen if you prefer something else. Contribute if you wish, or don't contribute. In each case, it's entirely your call.
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